Vídeo: CHARLOTTE WESSELS

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[Music] [Music] Mr trow what went down in your [Music] head the stars are in the sh [Music] listen to them to them Children of the Night Children of the Night what musicel [Music] [Music] obession record [Music] Charlotte vessels hello Charlotte hey how are you all good how are you I’m good thank you having a busy day uh yeah yeah the morning was okay now it’s getting a little bit busy and I’m still in a bit of a mess because we had pre-production but I hope that’s okay it’s fine how are you everything is good you know I got a bit of a sore throat somehow it’s not Co I don’t know what it is but you know it’s comes with a job of getting old yeah it comes with talking a lot which I can imagine you do a lot for your interview so yeah and uh you know let’s talk about the new records and the first question is is making music an obsession yeah I think so I I don’t think I could um I don’t think I could do without uh I I remember there were times when I was feeling like it was slowly going insane and then I wrote something about it and then I felt much better so um I think so I think it’s one of my healthier obsessions maybe the healthiest obsessions because contrary to a lot of other things like it actually uh helps you process things and makes you feel better so yeah you use music as um you know as a a way of dealing with certain things that you know we all go through stuff that we cannot talk with other people sometimes or we think we cannot talk and is music a way for you to kind of vent those thoughts that you cannot tell anyone else yeah definitely there’s a lot of things that you can do Under the flag of art which um would [Music] be weird or awkward or slightly disturbing um if if it were a regular conversation um but put them in a song and and uh and they make sense and sometimes people even relate even though you know it’s not something that you would easily speak about so I wouldn’t fully say art is therapy because you know everyone just needs to go to therapy too uh but it is definitely a good way to process things that like you said um maybe are not so easy to talk about in like a day-to-day setting yeah you know I advise therapy to people as well um some of them need a lot yeah you know some just need you know for me I went to therapy a few times and you know being confronted with your own thoughts a lot of the time it’s scary and it’s uncomfortable it’s no fun it’s yes I I I know but still you know know [Music] um there’s a lot of things where you have to go through an uncomfortable phase or like even a very painful phase in order to make everything after that just a little bit more bearable because so far like for me the most painful things are the ones where you have to actively stop yourself from thinking about them all the time and you know you cannot do that forever at one point it has to come out you have to be confronted with it you have to talk about it um yeah so yeah it’s always nice for yeah I’m on the I’m on the same uh on the same uh yeah I also people and so when did you start working on the songs that become the obsession because with the previous records you explore the different musical world and you know you always surprises we don’t know what to expect and then you throw us the obsession with it’s what I would say people will identify you with what you’ve done in the past more than the previous couple of records that you did is um when did you start working on the songs and when did you realize you know that more heav side was something that you wanted to explore for these records so so I started doing the patreon in 2020 and when I started to do that it was really to have a place for the songs that were anything but what I was working with on with delain at that moment because it was intended to be like a project you know for anything that wasn’t symphonic metal so in the beginning it was a very conscious choice to kind of do everything that was not what people uh sort of expected because if it was something that would fit into kind of a symphonic metal world then I would hang on to it for maybe you know the next the lane writing sessions or um so yeah so the fact that the first songs that I put out that they uh um that they were like a very different genre that was a very conscious Choice after that it w it became more of a sense of you know just wild exploration okay I’ve done this thing for 16 years now I’m going to see what else is out there and you know and so as things progressed and after the lane split as well you know every now and then it was a symphonic metal song but then you know every now and then it would be like an electronic thing or like a folky thing and I thoroughly enjoyed you know doing all of that and exploring all of that but after 2 years and that is kind of where you know the answer to your questions after two years and after tis from 6 Fe under Volume 2 was released I felt like okay I’ve done a lot of you know playing around and having fun you know trying all of these different things and it’s not like I’m ever going to stop Ling around or trying different things but but that was the moment where I thought now I want to make not a compilation of different songs that were written to be a song by itself but now I want to start working on an album with songs that belong together a sound that is more cohesive not all the same but you know yeah where where the songs kind of tell a story together and it has a beginning and an end and then also of course I want wanted to replace because on those albums it was all programmed you know me in the basement during the pandemic with a midi keyboard um this this is also something that I really wanted to different uh I had performed with a great band uh during the club tour for TS from 6 feet under and like there was no doubt in my mind that um I wanted to have them on this album uh as well so uh I think it was yeah around September October yeah around the release of tals from 6 feet under volume two that I started I think one of the first songs that I wrote for the obsession all you are I remember that it was just too late to make it to TS from 6 feet under Volume 2 and that I thought you know what this is actually a good thing because I think that this this would fit greatly on the the band album and do you like do you prefer the band environment is it more like inspiring to you like you were mentioning the club tour you did it seems that even though you enjoy obviously exploring different musical Avenues being in the band has a different energy to it yeah it’s very different it’s very different but the the nice thing is like within the current setup I I kind of get to do both like I get to be really introspective in like the first phase of the songs where you know I write them and I put them on patreon and then um at least that’s how it went with this album so I made the first version of the songs I put them on patreon so patrons they know like the first incarnations of the songs which is which is a lot of fun like they get to see how it changed you know with the involvement of the band and then um I went into this rearranging process uh with the band and um with Mo uh mostly was very uh very involved in like um kind of reshaping the songs so that they would work for um for the band recordings um and you know he did absolute wonders in the guitar Arrangements uh so that was really a really important phase and then we got into the studio to record all together the drum recordings is where we were all in the studio together that was really fun and and really inspiring and that was yeah I I really had moments where my heart jumped for Joy you know of how cool it was to hear the songs with the band to hear what Joey did with the drum Arrangements um he is he is such an incredible and and creative drummer as well so just you know in every phase of working on the songs with the band like yeah the songs grew and yeah that was that was just incredible to see but um the nice thing about it though is that yeah I don’t really have to choose because um I get to have both of those experiences within you know the making of an album yeah and you know I think it’s important for everyone to explore other types of music to kind of understand what they really want to do in the end it’s I I think it’s should be the same for everyone at least for me I like to listen to every kind of music but I know what mu what the what music what type of music is really important to me in the end you know I love classical music I listen to some pop music you know country music as well sometimes country music yeah I think it’s fun because lyrically it’s all about the same I I mean I had never enjoyed country and then I listened to Beyonce’s new record because I was I was so ready to dislike it and I absolutely loved it so I at a point where I’m like okay maybe I should reconsider my St so if you have any recommendations for me later on then then let me know yeah you know it’s and for me sometimes listening to those different styles of music it’s what make it’s what makes me appreciate more the heavier side of music The Rock the metal and you know every time even you know I was in a festival few weeks ago dual was at lining and I honestly didn’t know any any song from her but because I was photographing from the side I was listening to the music I was watching the crowd the way they were reacting and they gave me a different perspective on on her music and you know that kind of Pop more electronic kind of music and you know I didn’t became a fan but I I respect her show it was very well set up you know from start to finish and you know the crowd was crazy so yeah yeah that’s amazing uh yeah it’s the same for me I listen to so many different kinds of music and you know I dipped my feet in you know trying to do different sorts of music as well um and you know back in the day I was also like in in a in a in an orchestra and I played the clarinet and I was in a big band doing like jazz stuff and um um and I loved all of that but you know then there’s the one thing that kind of really gets you going and yeah that’s yeah the heavy sound of I get more exciting when it gets I always love like the heavier sound of the guitar you know when it’s well played and you know you were talking about Timo Timo is a fantastic guitar player I mean he’s best he’s crazy yeah I’m not even going to yeah I think he’s the absolute best and uh um not just in the way that he is you know uh he can play like a virtuoso but also in his approach to songs like he’s um he’s worked Wonders on this songs these songs but really on what works for these songs and I’ve seen and heard him work in like different genres as well doing completely different things and and doing the things to work with that song as well so uh yeah on on on all levels um he’s yeah he’s a he’s an amazing guitarist and he has some solos on this record but also live we did a solo for um we he played a solo for soft Revolution we did a part in soft Revolution where he got to do like a a solo that basically went on as long as he he liked and you know I cried a little every time and I cry a lot but this was U yeah not a dry eye in the room like it’s um yeah yeah the thing I appreciate about Timo you know is a fantastic guitar player you know he can shred he could be like soloing for an hour if he want it but it’s how he makes makes it important the song it’s what matters you know it’s not about showing off I mean it’s good that he can show off he could he could but he he plays for the music and uh it’s sometimes we we we look at virtu or guitar players and not all are able to play for the song and Timo is able to do that and you know you’re very lucky to have him in the I am I am definitely I’m I’m very very grateful to get to play with these people and then also just have them be my buddies The Best of Both Worlds anyway and you know when you start writing the you know the topics for this album are fear obsessive thoughts escapism um was it easy to write all about this putting putting it all out in a way yes uh in a way like just talking about the lyrics uh the songs that sort of write themselves are often the ones where you’re like I kind of want to write about this but maybe it’s too personal maybe it’s embarrassing but it’s kind of like the stronger and the more feelings you have about it the you know the more you have to put the paper uh for example the exorcism I remember I was actually working on another song and I’ve been working on it for a long time and I couldn’t get it where I wanted it and then I had a mixing appointment like I had my mixing day booked two days later and then I was like I’m just going to start a new song because this one’s not working out and then um the exm just rolled out so well that is probably that’s that’s the one that’s also kind of like hardest to sing like there’s a lot of songs if I sing them by now I’m thinking like oh how do I you know place the vowels right or how do I do I sing it nicely how do I get to the high note but uh this one is always just how do I get through how do I get through the story okay and not break down you know so it’s uh yeah but that one was very quick to write same goes for dopamine where I was like am I really going to right about the fact that I was on anti-depressants and that I couldn’t feel mentally but also physically I was like that’s a little embarrassing that’s a little TMI like are you really going to write that you’re dying to get off like is that really going to be the lyrics but those are the ones that are like it’s yeah sometimes I feel like the more Yeah the more the more personal or painful or embarrassing it is or obsessive the easier it is and when I was looking at all of the things that were on the album uh this also why it’s called why it’s called the obsession is I felt that so much of it kind of revolted around fear and I was diagnosed with OCD a few years ago and then I thought you know if that’s what it is then I’ll just call it what it is uh and yeah um and I just hope that there’s people because I don’t think that you can only relate to it if you have that too I think that there’s a lot of fears that are sort of universal fears and and I hope that people who listen to it kind of feel some solace in it you know or that they don’t feel alone or that they feel like it’s not such a taboo to talk about it for example with the medication and the from the song dopamine that I was talking about like I hop that there were more people talking about it when I was going through that because there were so many side effects that I never heard of um yeah that was a very long answer to your question and but you know you’re right about yeah but when you we talking about medic I’m on medication and sometimes you have side effects that you never associate with the medication you just think it’s something else and yeah yeah I I had wild dreams for example and I never knew that that was a part of what the medication did but I had such vivid dreams that at one point I wasn’t sure if I remembered something that like actually happened or that it was in a in in a dream and it and you know then I started looking for it and really really really started digging and then I found oh this is actually a common thing I was like it would have been nice if this was just you know out there and people were talking about it more because I think that in a lot of Western countries like one out of 10 people is on anti-depressant so uh yeah yeah you know I don’t know what that says about us as a society but if that is what it is then let’s at least you know let’s be open about it you know yeah and you know I that’s one of my issues I have Viv dreams on a nightly basis it’s so ridiculous you know I the dreams are so freaking real a lot of the time I wake up I I I I wake up sometimes very tired because of whatever was going through my head and it’s very hard to you know do something about it and I was with a cardiologist and I asked him you know is there anything we can do about it and he said no you know it’s you’re on that medication you have to take it if there is a side effect you know deal with it yeah and do you write them down uh the dreams yeah no some some I just try to forget there is there there is um a a dream or a place in this case that’s very recurrent a lot of the times it’s like it’s like a a part of a city and I never been to that City I I don’t know what it is but a lot of the times during the dreams and and they are different Dreams they’re never the same yeah there’s that place that you know I don’t know why it shows up I have no idea what it is what it is what it means nothing maybe one day you will find yourself in a city and look around and you’ll be like this is it yeah who knows you know that is interesting yeah it’s you know for me it’s always and I know there there there’s a couple of places one as a train station nearby and it’s made of brick walls and stuff and the other is just gray a gray kind of wall thing from a city and you know maybe from a past life I was you know living there I don’t know you know it’s the universe still has a lot that we don’t know about it’s very interesting to think that you know we just made of particles and maybe when we’re gone we just go and then come back in a different shape in whatever you know it’s something I I prefer to think like that then I’m just going to you know die go under and that’s it no more I prefer to think that the particles will just go away and then they will come back some other time so yeah yeah and you know let’s talk about music then my thoughts okay I started it yeah but that’s a good you know it’s a good thing about conversations you know you never know where it goes and you know sometimes it’s nice to talk about these things anyway and with the the one comes a tour you’re doing a tour with vola um what can you expect from the tour how many songs do you have plan from this new record to play live is there any idea yet yeah yeah yeah so we uh we’re playing uh 45 minutes so uh and I think that the majority of the songs is going to be the new record because we just realized that like there is there is some records or some songs from the previous records that will definitely make a reappearance but like we’ve been uh we’ve been rehearsing uh the new songs and the old songs uh because we’re going back on stage uh Al before the album release and we just noticed that um it’s such a difference between the old songs and new songs also because with the old songs um the we kind of had to rearrange them for the band to perform them live because um you know because they were made with a midi keyboard like basically when we sat down for for the first rehearsals to do it life we still had to find out uh if I’d made drum parts for a drummer with three hands you know so uh but of course for this album like we had done they had been so involved in the album process so um everyone plays their parts um that they know um uh and and that that makes a huge difference but also for me personally uh I feel like with these songs I’ve kind of come more into my own and I’m kind of singing more what I want to sing and also when I wrote the songs when I wrote the songs from the tales record I wasn’t thinking about ever performing them live when I wrote these songs I was thinking about performing them live so that also makes a big difference um so yeah I think I think that the set will be heavy on the new songs cool and uh you know you’re talking about arrangements as well on the record you got vicam from Silent skies actually I was thinking I was trying to work it into my answer but I’m like I’m Meandering so much because the only difference is that Sophia is now also playing some of vikram’s parts because vicam um like he in the beginning I thought I kind of like my own orchestrations and the key parts and I’m just going to uh maybe have like some additional uh orchestrations for for you know one or two songs and um and I worked with vram for that and uh you know I got the first two songs and in the end he he went over all of the songs because I loved what he did so much and also for like the first songs I wrote him like big lists of what I wanted and how I wanted it and I I even made mood boards like visuals for how I wanted them to feel you know and uh and for the last song I was just like go ahead to do your thing you know it’s it was yeah it was a delight to work with him and um and he did uh yeah amazing amazing things to his songs he did a lot especially in a song like um The Exorcism he did a lot with like bends and dissonance which I I really like I love dissonance in music and um yeah he he um and he did like really cool like analog synthesizer things on the song like backup plan and so yeah yeah really really cool stuff yeah is great I love the silence SK records I mean it’s those albums are just you know goosebumps every time they put an album out from start to finish you know with Tom’s voice and his Arrangements it just I I normally say that when it comes silent Skies if they were just reading like a phone book it would be amazing it would just sound per perfect anyway they are just so good doing that stuff anyway and uh you know you mentioned the exotism and dopamine you have Alisa on the exorcism and you got Simone on dopamine obviously you girls know each other for a long time now yes you just need to send an email or a message and say I got this song you want to sing it works that easily in a way it does but for these songs it had uh it has a it they they both have kind of a specific backstory like for dopamine with Simone um I remember like we knew each other for a long time because you know it’s a small world you run into each other on festivals like you’re kind of like each other’s co-workers but um uh but I really got to know her after actually the first time that I opened up about um my medication in that process and overcoming things and this was on a a live streamed interview um I didn’t know that she watched it but she texted me after and she was like let’s chat and we connected after that and we we spoke a lot we hung out we uh um we had other collaborations as well before this and then at one point I released the patreon version of dopamine on on patreon um and back then it was just harp and vocals and a little synthesizer thing um and and then she texted me like oh I really love this song I listen to it a lot and um and that’s when I thought okay so we bonded over this and now there’s a song about this that she likes so if it’s ever going to be on the album uh I will ask her to join and I did and she did and that was wonderful she recorded it right here and uh got to do the video which was great and then with Elisa like we also go way way back and we have sort of a history of doing songs based on um uh poetry from the Romantic Era like not like oh romantic but um uh literary uh uh historical Romantic Era and um o to the west wind is is is based on a poem by Percy Shelly uh by the same name and I figured that it fits so well within like the songs that we’ve collaborated on so far so when it when when it was finished like the first version again on patreon I thought and I could already kind of hear you know where her where her grunts would be um so yeah I asked her for that one as well and I was really glad that she could make it happen because she had a really challenging time like to make it fit her schedule and she moved Heaven and Earth to do it so I was really really really grateful for that um and I really love how it turned out yeah yeah charot thank you very much for your time the obsession is an amazing record thank you very much for the music and uh you know I hope to see you soon you know live I know on this run you’re not playing Portugal so you know maybe next year or in a festival um will be we’ll try to make it work and see you and the band Live should be an amazing experience thank you very much have a great day and I hope to see you soon all right thank you was lovely chatting with you have a great day bye bye [Music] bye glal [Music] [Music] [Music] see Twitter Instagram Mountain King if like [Music] [Music] [Music] Children of the Night he will live through the centuries to come as I have left good night good night oh [Music]