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[Music] [Music] Mr try what went down in your head the stars are in the sh [Music] listen to them to them Children of the Night Children of the Night what music Ramsey Blade records Satan the Jud priest Magnum [Music] Riv Ramy songs in Crimson how are you great thanks new everything is good brilliant very good the weather is still nice here in Portugal so it’s fine and uh you guys are preparing for the UK and Ireland shows start on Wednesday have you guys did all the rehearsals the set list is set in stone everything ready yeah everything’s good yeah we had a rehearsal on Saturday and everything was jly good this is um the first tour that Satan have ever done in the UK nobody believes me when I say that but uh we’ve never toured in the UK we’ve toured all over the world but not in the UK like in London and Newcastle would never T how how is that possible you know over a 40 year over a 40y year career how you never thre the UK being from the UK I’ve got no idea we’ve we’ve never been off at the shows or I don’t know something like that but um we’re heading up the Glasgow on um Friday and then we’re going over to Island to do Belfast and Dublin we’ve never been to either of those two countries so it’s going to be fun yeah it’s it’s great for us as well finally getting to do the places we should have done in the 80s yeah well there’s always a first time as they say you know might take 40 years but you know as long as you can cross that from The Bucket List it’s good and you know let’s talk about songs in Crimson um when did you guys start working on the songs for the album um we never stopped writing and uh and getting together and um playing through riffs and stuff um there’s one of the songs uh which one was it I think it was um frantic zero was it Fric zero I think frantic zero we already had that as a song on on the last album it was it was already there you know and it was one of the ones that we sort of left left alone and didn’t put on the album and then we worked on it a bit more when uh as soon as we recorded the last album we started with that one you know so we never um running out of ideas or anything they’re just coming all the time yeah and you know these records you know as it says on press release it’s more concise more song focused was that the intention from the Geto uh no and I don’t know why none of us understand why that’s happen happen but on the album there isn’t a song over 5 minutes which is very unlike us we used to writing some at least a couple of big long epic songs on an album and this time we’ve just done a set of songs one of the reasons why it’s called songs in Crimson you know because we feel like it’s concise it’s stra straight in your face kind of music you know like a song rather than a big instrumental um uh massive instrumental parts that we put in all the the middle of the songs you know I think we’ve cut them down a little bit and definitely not out of uh we didn’t think about it yeah well I I think you know for a change sometimes it’s good it’s pretty much old school in a way to have a more song focused record because yeah I mean there’s even a couple of songs on the album um horr of Babylon and morom where we we took a simple riff and then even when we wrote the R it was like is this is this really are we going to do this and we put it together and the both the songs are so simple Rift based rock rock music you know heavy metal riffs and uh and then after we’ve worked on them and put the vocals and The Melodies on and everything it was like yeah they’re great songs so sometimes to to to be simple is a good idea you know we we’re quite well known as a band for doing these um intricate music and intricate solos and harmonies and stuff like that and sometimes it’s good to just get down to a straight Rocking song you know yeah I think it works you know it works well sometimes you know when we see a lot of these you know even new bands or you know whatever it’s we see very complicated Arrangement and stuff like that and when you get an album that’s really much in your face it sounds fresh yeah yeah yeah to the point and it’s better to mix them up anyway so yeah you can’t keep producing big epic things all the time you know hey that we get bored I mean you can I mean you can but if you’re going to play live shows you know those long songs probably take like three or four songs yeah I mean we we have that you know like um we did uh the big epic song on Adam by Adam was it by I’m getting the albums mixed up was it sorry I forgot which the song yeah it wasn’t by um the fall of pany we tried when when we did that on the album that’s a big long epic song you know and we had all these massive vocal Parts in and we’ve actually performed that with the the singer that did all the um vocal harmonies and the the guy that did the voice over we had him live on stage at a show Newcastle and it was great for a while to do that song but it was so um difficult to put in the set when you if you’re touring around in small gigs and you’ve got all this extra these things to worry about you know yeah and uh it’s great to do them and then sometimes it’s great to just have those straightforward songs like those two I mentioned where you can just play them and it’s no problem yeah yeah and you know listen listen to the to the record you know I think it makes sense all the the 10 songs are on it because you know they seem to be part of the same band Same album you know everything fits well together yeah yeah I mean right from like our first album there’s a couple of little rock and roll songs on the first album even you know so um when you get the uh trucks like no turning back it’s it’s a straightforward rocker you know and that’s on the first album so it’s not like we haven’t done that before yeah it’s so yeah we’re just going sort of a little bit about a Roots again as well yeah and you know when I was reading the Press I see Russ was a bit you know giving out about you know technology and all that you know the way that every you know new record and new band sound so perfect and he was trying to do something that was the opposite of that in a way um did you feel that the new bands over produce their records and I I think really what happens is when obviously if we were a new band now we would be doing that yeah because that’s what is done and that’s how people do things you know you you would have to be sort of a real retro guide to want to do it the way we do it you know in a new band and that there are some people like that but mainly people use what’s there and it’s easier when you’re using digital for formats and stuff it’s easier to put an Alum together you know yeah of off the Alum you don’t have to play you can stitch it together and I remember even in the old days when we using tape we used to do that you know you chop the tape up and you would have little tape edits and uh so it’s only technology advancing and I don’t think it’s a bad thing I just think for us it doesn’t work for us you know yeah we we want to sound like the way we’re used to sounding and we we want to sound not we don’t want to sound like the new modern bands you know and I think that’s a personal preference really yeah but you know for me and you know listening to and I sometimes I mention this a lot when you listen to bands from the 70s and 80s I mean you can put them live on stage and they could Jam you know they could be there and make a 20 minute song you know out of it without any problems but if you put a new band they would probably have plenty of issues to jam and make it 20 minutes you know improvise on stage and I think there is a bit of a difference between you know the old school bands and the new bands I mean new guys can play really well but they cannot be on the stage let’s say with a band like the purple for instance they could be jamming out of a song for 20 30 minutes whatever it is and I think there is a difference there I think it’s the musicianship in a way I mean new kids awesome you know great for social networks Instagram whatever but if you put them on stage and say jam around this song they would have issues yeah I think I mean we we learned a player by year none of us had any lessons you know I think GMA basically had some classical guitar lessons but me and Russ we we didn’t have any guitar lessons we learned to play by year just working out what people were playing on records and um the few times that someone showed us something one of them was um the 12 Bar format for rock and roll and then one of them was the pentatonic scale that you use to play I mean a lot of guitarists don’t use anything else they use one simple scale yeah and but they know what k your songs in and things like that and I teach at at the moment my my life split between teaching and then playing live and doing the bond and I do some teaching and uh when I’m teaching you’re very right the they the kids nowadays seem to be um more worried about the technical side of playing than they are about the the emotional side the the where you get all the joy of what you’re doing and it’s it’s that Joy comes mainly from improvisation yeah and and the way that you write material like we do is through improvisation you know you don’t sit down and get some uh musical notes and put them in an order and then play them and see what they sound like it’s all in your head and it’s in your emotion your feeling and and um I think because of the internet a lot of kids are growing on and watching bands and copying them so there seems to be some a lot of really really good cover bands that can completely uh copy someone to to Perfection and then less like as you said less people that have got that um emotional and musical um thing in their in their hearts kind of thing yeah yeah you know because you know when you when I would you know watch some let Zeppelin theep purple Jimmy hris whatever and they would do these gems the AL man Brothers uh you know yeah you would listen to that and you know the musicianship was wonderful you know they would go off you know on a song they would start improvising all made sense and they would get back to the song in the end like it was nothing very smooth you know yeah everyone on the same page and that’s something that I appreciate a lot I’m not saying that new bands are bad because they cannot do this but you know I appreciate when there’s a you know real musician there in front of you then they can just play with emotion with heart and playing wrong notes is part of that yeah it is yeah I mean the songs that we play are very precise and they’re formatted but it all comes from jaming a lot do you guys use metronomes at all h no no I encourage my children my my students to do it but I’ve never done it yeah well if you have a good drummer you know that can keep the tempo that’s all you need you know oh yeah yeah yeah well if you mean if you mean me in the studio with uh Sean um it depends sometimes we might just to get uh the feeling of the song because sometimes we’re so used to when we were kids the whole ambition we had was to play everything as fast as we could yeah sometimes you have to with especially with Sean you have to re that in a little bit do you ever have to look at him and say slow the hell down please me me and R are really struggling to play the rift and you know you mention you know using tape back in the day to you know to record to do that cuts and you know to do all that is it easier now with the this digital format with Pro Tools whatever you know software people use these days is it easier you know it’s cheaper probably to record now than it was yeah yeah it’s it’s ch I mean it’s that all that has worked for us I mean we use a digital platform to record on you know but we still use the ethic that we’re going to play it all in a live way you know and then we’re going to fix it or leave it sometimes we we leave the mistakes in depending on if they’re ruining the song or not so you’ll often hear some little bits of guitars and and sometimes hits on the drums sometimes little vocal bits that uh people would iron out and I think the problem with recording now is the digital format is you can IR in every single little crease out of the music yeah and I think that also is a a difference between what we did in the 70s you know a guy played me um he said he isolated a riff I think it was the trees it was a riff by Rush and it was Alex lon’s guitar partt and Alex lon’s playing like a pick pot um like the trees I can’t remember exactly what the song was and he had like a big effect on it like a um a flanger or you know something chorus and they isolated the guitar part and took it off and the the actual part that’s on the r was little bit of a mess and and then you think nowadays that wouldn’t happen because you would play that to Perfection over and over again until it was perfect yeah and surely you know you listen back to those Rush records and never think for one minute that Alex Leon isn’t a fantastic guitarist yeah so those little creases in the music are important you know yeah it’s and I don’t think we have them anymore I think it’s very rare that that people are recording like that anymore like just just ex they expression on tape or or on the recording you know how they expressed playing the song and that’s what trying to do are trying to say that’s how you played it that’s how it’s going to be you know yeah and sometimes one of us is running away with a riff a little bit or you know and then one of us is trying to pull them back it’s that’s giving all the music it’s its own dimensions and and you know and physicality and I think that’s important yeah I I think I I don’t know may you know maybe in the new generation is their ears are trained for you know different you know they have a different perception of music but for me you know growing up in the 80s you know those little imperfections that I heard in the bands from the 70s even playing live that what made things perfect in the sense that it bring humanity and feeling yeah a human touch yeah you know that that was played by a human it wasn’t fixed by a computer yeah yeah that that’s the you know that that’s the thing I mean technology is great but you know when it comes to music you know there are best that really know how to use technology in their favor and you know make things sound good but you know I still prefer to hear you know and know that it’s a guy or a girl that it’s playing the instrument instead of having doubts if is really playing live or it’s like a backtrack that’s playing that you know yeah of course yeah you know sometimes yeah it’s it’s complicated but what is your take when it comes to Ai and technology these days you know as a old school musician how do you see this evolution of you know technology and artificial intelligence is something that worries you or you just too old now to worry about any of that that’s one way of looking at it I don’t think it’s going to affect us but um ion know drama and skycloud put put in AI in um song making uh piece of software uh the details of Sky lad the band and it played a song and it was great it didn’t sound like sky but it was good you know and then you start thinking wow why would eventually they’re not going to need bands you could put that you could even put that into AI get those songs and then learn songs and perform those life yeah you’re not even writing your own music anymore and that’s a bit scary yeah when when that’s a possibility that’s a bit scary yeah I think they eventually that day will come I don’t know if we’ll still be around or not when that day comes but you know I hope that we still have the oldfashioned old school musicians that you know play live with you know no [ __ ] nothing it’s just you know rock and roll life and you know you were talking about skyclad where is the status of skyclad at the moment it’s been a long time since you guys put out an album yeah we’re having a bit of a debate about that at the minute because yeah it’s been a lot too long so we’re having a little debate in the band at the moment we’re still gigging but uh and we have some material written but there’s nothing um pushing us forward so we’re going to have a after we get this sat tour out the way we’re going to have a little talk about it you know obviously we need to ask this but would you guys be up for a reunion with Martin or is he even in that frame of mind or you guys even talk still or it’s something that no we didn’t talk at all we haven’t spoken to him since he didn’t come to Keith’s funeral Keith backstar old drummer from the first few albums he uh he unfortunately died uh a few years ago and um we invited Martin we hadn’t spoken to morning since he left the band but we invited him to Keith’s funeral and he didn’t reply to us so that put that was the nail in the coffin for anything ever happening yeah yeah it is you know it’s it’s sad when things get to that point but you know yeah it really is it really is yeah you know because you know I I was very fond of Sky clad and and still am you know I still have the records and you know it’s still one of those bands that I like to you know when I need to go down the memory lane road you know I like to listen to Sky CL brings a lot of great memories and the lyrics you know Martin was very good at um you know writing he was great great writer and anyway but you know it is what it is live goes on we have to move forward and you know talking about you know I don’t want to really bother you much with this but how do you see this UK now post brexit now you guys have a new PM uh labor after many years of you know the conservatives how is the UK now I haven’t been in the UK in a couple of years normally I go to bloodstock for the festival but I haven’t been there in a couple of years what is your stance in what’s happening in UK at the moment well we’re all a bit happier that Lor are back in but the parties are so wishy-washy now that you didn’t make any difference really uh for me personally uh brexit was a complete disaster um I don’t know haven’t got any friends or anybody that voted for brexit they all voted against it you know and uh it’s really affected a lot of Our Lives it’s affected us as musicians because of the the traveling and the allowance of how long you can spend out of the country um it’s it’s affected us tax-wise it’s certain it because now all the tax laws are changing because we’re not part of Europe it’s affected us uh equipment wise you can’t take equipment without having the stupid old carer system again where everything’s got every item’s got to be listed and checked at the borders and um we had an instance where I’ve got a friend who uh has a German girlfriend and then there was a big falling out in the family because some of his family voted for brexit obviously made life difficult for her uh before they got married um and I’ve uh Grand our B player he he was building a little house for himself a little cottage um bought some land in France and was planning on spending his retired years nice and warm in France somewh and uh brexit came along and just ruined all lot for he can’t do it because he can’t spend any time there because all this time he spends out the country now is with the band giggy yeah yeah yeah it’s it’s been a shame you know for I think for everyone yeah really has it was a a bad thing but uh the only good thing now was LE in is um I work for the music service in Newcastle and uh which is the the council the government supplied music service and um they will put a little bit more money into it so it be better for music yeah now that yeah yeah yeah it’s you know there’s always you know hope for the future you know yeah round yeah let’s hope things turn around and you know we can go back to what it was in a way you know because I think when Europe was you know all together in that sense I think that was how it should have been yeah you know brought a lot of good things to everyone you know and you know it’s import it’s important to try to keep it like that and you know bring the UK back because I don’t think if the you know if the UK wanted to go back to European Union I think would be a you know everybody would say yes you know no one good yeah so and you know after these you know UK and Ireland shows um what are the plans for Satan after that um we’re going over to Europe um we finish uh on the I think the London shows on the oh we finish in Brighton on the 11th or 12th and then we have a gig in France festival in France on the 14th or 15th I’ve got getting some my de from but yeah we’re going straight from the UK to about Europe and we’ve got about three weeks in Europe to do cool so it’s going to be busy yeah busy busy busy yeah yeah yeah that’s good then next year uh summer festivals and all that you think that’s going to Happ yeah there’ll be there’ll be all the festivals and um we’ve also got a um full USA tour planned for March so we’re going to be busy again oh that’s good you know things are looking good at least for now yeah cool all right Steve thank you very much for your I’m all the best for Satan and you know for skyclad we miss skyclad I think last time I saw you guys was actually at bloodstock when you guys played the Sophie stage that was like 2014 2015 maybe I can’t remember it was it was a while ago played we played at heal this year so still we’re still around the few and far between yeah well we need to make that more regular anyway but you know it’s at least you’re busy with Satan at the moment so uh that’s good Steve thank you very much for your time hope to see you guys soon all the best and uh you know um see you soon all right absolute pleasure man thank you very much have a great day thank you bye bye bye bye [Music] St [Music] Ramsey Ram [Music] satest Magnum Rivers [Music] [Music] [Music] of the night he will 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