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[Music] [Music] Mr try what went down in your head the stars are in the sh [Music] listen to them to them Children of the Night Children of the Night what music [Music] for there is [Music] [Music] nothing there is fit for an autopsy Patrick Sheridan hey how are you hey Patrick how are you good good how’s your day uh so far so good busy but good so good busy busy is good yeah I don’t complain I prefer to be busy than have nothing to do to be honest so yeah because if I’m if I’m not busy then my brain works and if my brain works that’s a whole other thing yeah very good and uh you know how’s been the reactions with the people who’ve been talking so far about the new fits for an autopsy records um most people have been pretty receptive um I think people expect us to kind of always move forward musically because our records are you know always so different from each other so um I think people are very happy um maybe maybe surprised about the uh some of the stuff but it’s been very good reception’s been great yeah one of the things you know that I appreciate listening to the new record is the production of it you know it’s um I don’t know there is certain bands that play this that have this sound where the production is just too much up there and you can barely distinguish anything and listening to fit for an autopsy you can listen everything and it’s actually doesn’t Tire my ears which is rare well I appreciate that that’s uh that’s an important thing you know you don’t want you don’t want the listener getting bored halfway through you don’t you you know that people are going to skip to their favorite songs and do that whole thing but you want people to listen to the whole record you know so I would say that uh I would say we’re pretty happy with the response so far and that people really seem to be buying into the whole thing I think uh the idea of our records is so it’s a package you know you get one you know a bunch of songs that if you listen to it as a whole record it feels like one long song you know like peaks in valleys and does what it’s supposed to do but also at the same time a bunch of great songs that can be listened to se separately yeah so that’s the goal right to good production good songwriting everything kind of flows together as one long thing so I think I think with this record we’ve we’ve achieved that yeah are you guys careful when you finish writing an album you know when you choose the order of the songs that those Peak and valleys you know they are in the right place I think the way you put a record together this is something we talk about pretty often I think the way you put a record together is as important as the way you write the songs because you can have 10 great songs but if they don’t feel like they flow yeah it creates an issue with the record you know like we talk about those old Metallica records and how there was like a formula and if you go back and you listen to those records you can see like starts off with your intro has a banger has another Banger then it’s got something with like a little more Melody and flow to it like it it brings you up and down through the whole thing it’s not just like um a mixture of cool songs it’s there’s thought there when it comes to the way that you’re you know putting the songs together and and the way the album flows so that’s a really important thing especially for me I I think that makes or breaks a good record you know what I mean yeah because I remember you know in the 80s there was you know some bands that shall not be named anyway but they would have the singles first you know one or two three great songs and all the rest was absolute fluff and garbage yeah absolutely well I mean what’s the point of writing a record if people are you know you’re going to release the singles and then it’s over you might as well just release singles you know and I mean people do that now like pop music um you know hip hop like all different types of music they’re Rel releasing these singles and they’re doing it in a way where they’re having great success just putting out a few singles a year and you know and then they put a record out once every couple of years and the record’s okay but the singles are the thing that keep them alive you know there’s a formula to that too but I think in the metal world you know we we strive and especially the listener wants something that’s a um a unique piece of music yeah you know and I think that uh as a band member and as somebody who’s putting out something for people to buy yeah you want to give them something different but you also want the The Listener to feel like it’s familiar but you want them to feel like it’s new at the same time which is is all a challenge you know like you’re like here’s this pizza and you’ve had it a million times but we did a couple of things different but it’s still familiar and it still tastes like a pizza but it’s going to be a little better than last time yeah that’s that’s hard to do you know because you don’t want to promise somebody a pizza and give them a hamburger you know what I mean then then it’s then they don’t want it you know they have expectations you know what I mean and but you know you’re talking about that and I was thinking that a lot of labels now they are betting on the streaming platforms More Than Physical releases which is a bit anti metal and anti metal fans in a way because even though I I have my Apple music account I you know I put the albums there when I’m driving the car but at home as you can see you know there’s CDs there’s vinyl you know I still very much and I don’t I’m not a singles guy to be honest and I hate radio edits when you know [ __ ] hate all that know just give me the album give me the songs I want to listen to the whole [ __ ] thing I don’t want just a single sure you know but um that comes with age too right like I’m gonna guess you’re in your 30s right no no I’m I’m almost 50 okay all right so me too so I’m I’m I’m I’m 48 and um at my age I experien something very different than people who are half my age yeah you know these people that grew up only having access through the internet for music and movies and these things and streaming has been something that is a regular practice for these folks in a way where like it was different for us you know we had to get on our bikes or our skateboards or get our mom or dad to drive us to the store and then drop us off and we were there all day because parents didn’t want to come back in 25 minutes and pick you up just so you could go byy the New Slayer record you know and and you you had a different experience you know it’s like going to the library you know it’s it’s like it’s a very different thing so when you when you think about what what you’re saying is very real and and I think that that is a big reason that um that vinyl is doing so well right now because people want something tangible they want to take something home and I know a lot of people that you could call vinyl colle s that don’t even have a record player at home anymore yeah you know and it’s like it’s a very different game now but the structure of a record can make or break yeah your record sales it really can and I think streaming platforms are the devil but also great at the same time like you know so many more people hear our record because of streaming people that would never have access to it before because they’re not gonna go buy a record from a band called fit for an autopsy you know what I mean like they’re just not going to do it and then they hear it and they go oh this is cool let me let me look at this you know what I mean so there’s there’s value in it but it is it is different yeah and uh when did you guys start working on the songs for the for the new album um some of this stuff was kind of song starts that we had from the last record that we really liked that uh you know will stuck in a vault yeah and some of it is new um I think that a lot of bands do that you know they start working on things don’t don’t necessarily come to fruition right away and um so we had we had you know we cheated a little on this one we had some stuff kind of looming in the background that we were really excited about but um I would say we really started like chipping away at it um maybe maybe a two months before we got in the studio to actually record yeah it was a pretty quick process this time yeah it’s good to have stuff in the back burner so to say instead of you know I don’t know depends on the artist and the musician some some artists and some musicians they prefer to have nothing and start from scratch others you know if they have ideas from 2 three four 5 10 years ago you know they can make some Stu out of it so yeah well I think I think it’s important to remember too that the process isn’t always the same you know like some songs you sit down and you’re like oh this riff is cool let me put some drums under this and then you instantly get an idea and you can write a song in you know 30 minutes and then there’s the song that has been killing you to write for you know eight years that you have all these cool Parts but you don’t know how to tie them together so the process is definitely uh it can be easy or it can be the worst thing on Earth you know there are some Rifts that are great that will never see the light of day because you just can’t figure out what you’re supposed to do with it you know what I mean is it frustrating to have you know you have like a great riff and then you just cannot use it yeah of course I mean it’s one of those things where like everybody will be like yeah that’s cool I just don’t know where it fits and then it just you know you have this great idea and you’re hoping like oh this is sick like I like this maybe we can you know get somebody else’s take on it and they can come up with an idea and you just kind of hit a wall and then you’re like well just gonna throw it back in the pile and you know start someplace else and then 10 years you’re like oh this is awesome and then you write a song then with it you know so yeah it can be a thing definitely when I think of Rifts I think black Sait and you know Tony was and still is like a reef master and it’s amazing how you knew exactly what song it was you know what was the name of the song just by the rift that’s scar that not everyone can probably achieve in a way and I’m just imagining having what you think it’s a great reef but not being able to use it and it probably could be the next Iron Man or something yeah yeah yeah yeah it’s it’s hard you know it’s it’s definitely um it’s more frustrating to have a good idea that gets held up than to have a bad idea that you get rid of yeah I guess because like you know who knows like so you know Black Sabbath Masters of Reality like one of the best compilation of riffs on a record like how do you how do you write that like how does that happen yeah and then you know imagine writing one of those riffs and just somebody being like H I don’t know you know what I mean and then you throw it away and it could be a billion dollar riff you know what I mean like who knows but it’s just you got to take the good with the bad and you like I said I would rather write something that my guys are like ew dude that’s terrible than write something and have everybody be like this is [ __ ] awesome and then just it goes nowhere yeah you know what I mean yeah it’s it’s frustrating and uh and I do agree Black Sabbath is uh when it comes to riffs yeah you know there’s so many of those riffs that are just stuck in my head forever just the timing and like all that stuff like they are the masters of that for sure but that’s one of the things for me from you know from the band in the 70s it’s how they were you know how they how they got in the studio they put a record in a week or something and after you listen to Black Sabbath you listen to Deep Purple and all those records are Timeless I mean they’re not the songs you could say it’s not the most sometimes intricate but they work and for the again we’re talking about for the time we’re talking the 60s yeah like they like you can’t you that was groundbreaking music you know what I mean and like if you go back and listen I talk about lead Zeppelin a lot because lead Zeppelin to me I’m not I’m not the biggest fan and and a lot of people get like what do you mean and it’s like well if you listen to some of that stuff it’s a mess D it is a mess the timing is off and you know John Bond’s back there digging in and then the guitars are just wherever they want to be and it’s like no structure but at the time it was groundbreaking like people never heard anything and why does this work and you know Robert Plant was just sexy as hell and people had to pay attention you know what I mean and it it had its moment and there’s a reason why it was massive and people love it and I get it but like it’s about the time because imagine if that came out now you know what I mean people be like what the hell is this this is garbage like the drums are not lining up like the timing is off like they’re all on drugs it sounds crazy like you know it’s just not it’s not the same you can’t have a record come like that come out after like a necro agis record comes out you know what I mean it just doesn’t it doesn’t work yeah so it’s all about timing and and about you know the lineage you know that it’s very important then but I mean even Black Sabbath records I mean imagine if um imagine if like uh British steel came out before um paranoid came out like no one would have cared they would have been like whatever this is rudimentary you know what I mean so it’s just it’s all it’s all relative yeah everything at at their time and we are in a different generation now where you know there is more perfectionism in a way that things are played way that it’s recorded as well I mean nowadays you can be at home and you can you know either you do automatically or you can just you know actually have an ear and play right you know well I mean there’s there there’s so much information yeah at the touch of a button at this point that you got like 15-year-old guitar players that are like smoking professional guitar players yeah right but they’ll never I won’t say they I I’ll say some of them will never get the opportunity to do what I do because they can’t deal with what you have to deal with to get there yeah there a whole other discussion yeah I’m a mediocre guitar player in a world full of you know in a world full of sharks I’m a tuna I’m big enough to survive because a lot of stuff can’t eat me you know what I mean but but I can get through it and you know Tim in our band is a very very good guitar player so like he keeps me on my toes he makes me a better player and you know will writes a lot of riffs that take take a minute for me to learn it’s just it is what it is but like a lot of those guys and girls and players and people will never get to the point of doing it because doing it comes along with something else like got to eat peanut butter sandwiches out of the back of a van for 20 years yeah and it’s not it’s not for everyone not everybody’s built for that you know like I know a lot of players out there that try and they cannot do it they just can’t can’t deal with it I mean my wife if she was on this podcast right now or this interview right now rather she would say like I watched my my husband give up everything so he could get half of what he wanted yeah you know yeah but you know I I think that the new generation they don’t understand I’m not saying everyone again but what is sacrifice and uh the work that you have to put into because it’s very easy to put your phone on a tripod get a good light and film yourself shredding and playing someone else’s music perfectly but another thing it’s to go on the road being on a van having to put up put down equipment doing the sound check I mean how many how many takes are these players taking yeah to record that one 30 second blip of music that everybody’s like oh my God I mean don’t get me wrong you got guys like Rick Graham and Guth Guth Goin and that dude Spiro he’s like this new like Phenom guitar player who is I mean it is crazy to watch them play and I think that dude’s doing that stuff in one take because he’s just it’s scary to watch intimidating like come on man cut it out save some notes to the rest of us you know yeah but um oh that’s good uh but um like the idea that you know you set your camera up [ __ ] do it again [ __ ] do it again well do it once once in front of 2,000 people yeah one shot that’s a very different kind of pressure yeah and it’s not always 100% on accurate but you make it look cool and they don’t know that you did your little mistake there and you know you get off stage and you beat yourself up for a half an hour and then you drink a cup of coffee and you laugh about it and you move on there’s it’s a different kind of humility that comes along with the world that we live in yeah and uh a lot of people don’t a lot of people don’t have the ability to work through that um one thing like I have I have this um this woman that I’ve been kind of helping a little bit I don’t really teach guitar but she’s just somebody I met and um she actually tutors my son and she had asked me if I would show her some stuff so I’m just showing her some real basic stuff and one thing I told her was when you start putting yourself out there you are at the mercy of the people watching you yeah and you can either be real about it and you can work through it and get really really good or you can fake it and eventually people find out and that’s what it is you know so all these players that are smoking it on the internet like if I did 30 takes I could play just about anything yeah you know I mean but not not the first one yeah you know so yeah that that’s that’s where the internet is bad right because like you you can become a sensation overnight but maybe not deserve it y but you know those guys as I mentioned they’re probably very proficient you know technically but give me Michael Shanker any day of the week you know look you know incredible incredible player and and the performance is there yeah and you know you were saying for me it’s and I say this all the time it’s the when when I B play live and makes a mistake I know some musicians as you said you know they you know they beat on themselves like for a some minutes after the show because of the mistake but those slight imperfections is what make a perfect show because it shows The Human Side of an artist and of a band and you know you know that’s real what’s happening there’s plenty there’s plenty of players out there with those backing tracks on that are you know that are really good at acting and um I’m not and again not to say that fif for an autopsy doesn’t use tracks because we do ambient tracks and we do piano stuff and we have some like third and fourth guitar player things that are you know not Rhythm tracks not solos not leads but things that fill the room right and this is an interesting topic because um the expectation of The Listener and the audience member has changed because if it doesn’t sound like the CD they don’t care yeah right yeah so that’s a big thing and so when you get on stage you got to play to a click there’s no more extend the breakdown at the end there’s no more add aart there’s no more unless you’re planning it every night and then it feels contrived right so like there’s there’s none of that there’s no more oh man this place is going crazy hit it again hit it again you know like that was like a big thing like in the 80s and the 90s like bands would you know you you would go see a band and they would have like this super heavy part at the end and then they would slow it in halftime and play it longer and you could see it was something special can’t do that anymore because you got to sound like the CD and you know there’s benefits to both because there’s no surprises but also like I miss those days of being able to like see a band and oh [ __ ] they have time it again it’s so heavy like I’m gonna bang hit through this railing you know like it’s like that doesn’t just doesn’t happen anymore yeah but you know it is what it is at the end of the day and you know and you know as you said there’s certain expectations when you go see a band Live these days they expect probably more the sound of the city than just a whole live mistakes extended you know improvisation stuff but you know I think there’s space for for everyone and you know on this record the nothing that is the artwork I think it’s I was looking at it and I just felt like you know we are in a time in a world that you know I just wish that [ __ ] black hole would just consume the planet suck us all in well I said I have a I have a 14-year-old son and a couple years back you know they were talking about like end of the world like apocalyptic kind of stuff and you know he said something interesting to me and he’s a really smart kid like really really in touch with his feelings and very vocal about how he feels and you know he’s like it’s scary and I looked at him and I said well we hope it doesn’t happen and you know nobody wants to die nobody wants the world to really come to an end but if we all go at the same time doesn’t really matter yeah and he looked at me and he was like that’s really dark but it makes a lot of sense you know and that’s the thing like if we all get wiped out at the same time who who’s there to even because once I’m when I die it’s no longer my problem right it’s it’s my wife and my son and you know everybody who cared that I was alive it’s it’s their problem you know and that’s like a real thing and uh I think the artwork kind of relays the idea of like what could happen if we’re not thinking about it you know it’s like it’s the idea of like the end could just like that because of a two-c decision yeah you know what I so yeah I love I I and again Adam Burke has been doing our art since I’m pretty sure the great collapse was the first record that he did for us and his artwork is incredible yeah he’s awesome yeah he’s really cool you know because I was looking at the artwork and I was just reading the news today because you know what’s happening in the Middle East now you got Russia and Ukraine and you know I was just thinking you know better we just you know [ __ ] everything we just disappear and no more you know for every sometimes I know it’s you know it’s bad to say that because someone makes a bad decision we all have to pay for it but at the end of the day I think that would be the [ __ ] lesson for everyone you know it’s yeah yeah you know we talk about a lot of this stuff in our lyrics and there are a couple of songs on the record that particularly lean into what you’re talking about specifically right now and um everybody is always like well if you don’t support this then you’re that thing or if you don’t support that then you’re this thing and you know they align politics with people and they they don’t realize that everything that is happening is disconnected from the people everything that is happening is a straight source of people with money and power making decisions based on money and power and the average human being in the world doesn’t have the ability to make those decisions they don’t have the ability to stand up and you know we think everyone everyone should have the comfort and right to feel free and safe wherever they are yeah and it doesn’t matter who you are or where you come from or how you look it’s very important so when we talk about these topics and we talk about these things it’s risky right because you risk people looking at you and saying you’re a bad person because you don’t agree with me and the world is extremely polarized right now right there’s no discussion there’s no teaching anybody anything so that is the idea of what we do we put our things and our um feelings and and what we see about the world and what we think is happening into these songs into the artwork into the records and we put it out there in a way that we hope people can tie to it it’s not very often that we make things very clear on how we feel but there’s a couple on this record that there’s no denying what we’re saying yeah and uh I think I think we gave a little push on this record there’s a there’s a push there’s one line in a song in particular that’s a push and I think I think we’re just tired of I think we’re tired of seeing people hate each other because of the decisions that are made made by shitty old men with money yeah it’s [ __ ] iring look what’s happening in America right now look at our political race look at at Gaza look at you know what’s going on in Russia and the Ukraine look at all these things like it’s crazy like the world is actually [ __ ] crazy right now there’s so many conflicts happening in so many places over religion and money and power and it’s like just let people live yeah just let people be happy you know what I mean so yeah I think it’s cool that you get the cover and that you see what it is like it’s cool if you look in there there’s like houses and cars airplanes going in there and there’s like animals getting pulled in and it’s just like Mother Nature has had enough and [ __ ] everybody shake you off of our back and you know aot lot of our music is like that you know like we caught some heat when we released black Mammoth um at the time that we released it here because it was heavily um it was obvious that the song was about what was going on with the delpa pipeline and like we we caught a lot of heat like oh you’re not an American and how dare you take work from our workers and it’s like yeah but we’re poisoning the Earth and we’re GNA kill people and you know we’re doing all it’s like it’s crazy to think that people don’t get it so that’s what it’s it’s kind of nice that you got a hold of that and you know just to wrap it up um you were mentioning the the States you guys are going for an election and for me it’s kind of weird that only a few years ago I realized that was actually more than two parties in the United States but the news only focus on Two And I don’t understand and I understand now it’s all because of money and you know they get you know they buy the tv ads they got their time but there’s more parties in the states than the Democrats and the Republicans there’s all kinds of stuff and no one talks about it well that’s that’s the thing outside States probably you know an uninformed nation is an easily fooled Nation you know and um it’s very it’s very crazy to think about the fact that there are options out there that could really do really great things not just for our country but the United States is like a it’s it when when things happen here it affects the whole world yeah you know what I mean and I think that people are so focused on you know this whole making things great again like I I don’t ever remember it being great you know I don’t I just don’t remember that I I remember it always being this way it’s just now it’s got a big [ __ ] rainbow afro and a squeaky nose you know it’s a it’s a clown show yeah you know what I now it’s like you can’t escape it and when I travel to other places and I talk to people it’s embarrassing because people are like the American dream is dead you know it used to be a place that people strive to go and now people are not interested in this place anymore and it’s it’s all a sham you know it’s all it’s all a joke and like it’s uh I don’t know I don’t I don’t see you going anywhere good anytime soon to be honest with you I don’t think it’s just the US I think it’s the whole [ __ ] world is Shifting to a stage where I think we’re going to have a lot to worry about in the next few years other than thinking about peaceful and whatever I think we are are on a dangerous curve at the moment and you know I hope the new generation will get up from their phones from their Tik toks and go vote and actually you know be part of society you know talk have discussions because that’s what they need to do as well well you want to know what I honestly see as being a huge change when people actually realize that the majority can make a difference if they lose that discomfort you know it used to be if you were a Punker or you were a metal head or you believed in that stuff you were willing to stand up and yell [ __ ] you yeah and do that thing and um know that’s gone away because I think people you know give me my TV and my cell phone and you know my car and let me be comfortable and um I don’t want to you know I don’t want any conflict you know I’m I going to hurt my feeling like no like you gota you got to be willing to stand up and yell about things and and about things that are going to affect you and and and like change things you know like it’s uh it’s kind of crazy place but I I think Europe is really good for that there’s always lots of good protests Europe is really good at at being strong and we’re excited you know we should probably talk about the record but um we’re we are excited to get to Europe we have a European tour coming and we’re excited to get back over with you know that crowd and and kind of do the thing you know what I mean Europe has always been a place that I love I love how strong people are about their opinions if you go to Germany and they don’t like your new record they [ __ ] tell you you know what I it’s this record is good but this one was better what happened you know what I mean f dude you know but uh we’re we’re you know we’re really really excited to get back out the road man and like I just hope that people when they sit down and listen to the record they get everything out of it that you seem like you’ve gotten out it you know from the artwork and how it ties into the record and lyrically like take a minute to listen to the songs like there’s some bangers on there there’s a song in there about having like like a violent reaction to an oppressive authority figure yeah there’s a song in there about what’s going on in Gaza Strip there’s there’s some songs in there about just us getting fully wiped out like the title track you know like there’s like there’s a lot of really good content and Joe bad like really nailed it with his vocals like the performance on the record to me is one of the best we’ve ever done um it’s sounds huge the guitars sound great the drums are great like blue stands out as a bass player on the record like there’s little bits for everyone um Tim and I did some of the most metal stuff we’ve ever done like we trade guitar solos in the middle of a song like I start it and he finishes it so like it’s definitely the most um I guess prolific like interesting record we’ve ever done and uh and there’s a lot of content about how this world sucks and [ __ ] if we don’t cut it out so and as I said the production on this record is absolutely Stellar you know from you can hear you know everything it doesn’t Tire the years I I said in the beginning it’s a great record and you know Patrick thank you much for your time was a pleasure to talk with you hope to see you guys in Portugal soon not playing in Portugal in this run but you know next year there’s always next year you know 2025 is looking like um lots of festivals lots of European stuff and you know Portugal would be amazing you know we know that people like what we do there and you know we want people everywhere but we’ll use Portugal as a point of reference right now to know like we want to come we want to play we want to go everywhere you know the whole idea of this is I’m never going to be a millionaire playing heavy metal but I’d love to go everywhere that I could and meet everybody that gives a [ __ ] about what we do so I don’t care if there’s a hundred people or a thousand people at a show like we just want go play yeah so let’s uh let’s make it happen Portugal let’s do it yeah let’s do it P thank you very much for your time all the best and hope to see you soon all right thank you I appreciate you have a great day thank you bye bye bye thank you my friend [Music] bye glal conver Patrick shid isord [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] Instagraming [Music] for Children of the Night he will live through the centuries to come as I have lived good night night [Music]