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[Music] [Music] Mr trow what went down in your [Music] head the stars are in the sh [Music] listen to them to them Children of the Night Children of the Night what music [Music] Neverland [Music] for never gab Gabrielle Frank onto others hello how you doing man hey Gabriel how are you see you how are you well everything good what’s up everything good oh yeah yeah same old yeah we were just uh we had our billboard go up last night for the new record so we were out there checking it out and having some drinks and so now I’m tired very good it’s it’s good to be busy you know your third album is coming out very soon um doing a lot of press is that a good sign yeah I mean a lot of press is always a good sign this is definitely more than strength I think so yeah yeah and the the feedback so far for Never Never Lands has it surprised you um well I haven’t gotten a ton back yet because uh I mean just from the interviewers but um with all due respect uh when you’re face to face with somebody they’re gonna say your record’s great they’re gonna find a way to say it’s awesome or something and um no one’s going to say you know I thought it really sucked um but I I believe them I’m sure I’m sure it is a good record and um yeah the reactions have been pretty positive so far so I’m I’m happy with it yeah can I be brutally honest with you one of the things that surprised me the most on these records it’s the guitar Melodies solos and The Melodies overall on this record you know I was taking notes of the songs I stopped because I was you know thinking notes of every song that was on the record so oh [ __ ] okay yeah so I so I can of stop myself because there there are songs you know where you know Angel of the night it’s like the solo on it it seems or sounds simple but it’s a great melodic solo like like you kind of show that you don’t need to shred every time to make a guitar solo shine and Angel of the night was just one of those tracks I was listening to it I was like you know Pink Floyd did something like this in the past where you know Gilmore would hold the note and it meant the world and you guys kind of do that on Angel of the night thank you yeah uh Tom are producer actually called those the Gilmore solos as well so you caught on to that um we have uh some similar solos like that in uh cold world um but yeah Sebastian just nailed that angel of the night solo I remember I came in that day I was out partying the night before I hadn’t like gone out in weeks but I one of my friends from Australia you know the band seir you ever heard of them no okay they’re like a heavy metal band from Australia but I love him and he’s like I’m in I’m I’m in town I’m like where you at he’s like a block from my house so anyways I was up till 5 in the morning and I go in the studio and I’m just like dudes I you know I’m like you you have to do the solo and so I’m laying on the couch kind of being like Rick rubben uh yeah it’s good guys and and Cass just laid out the angel of the night solo and I was like dude that is the best solo I think you’ve ever done and I hope that’s not insulting because he can shred but really that solo I still listen to it and we played it at practice live the other day and it sounded just as powerful as it did on the record and I was like damn those are the happy accidents I love in the studio yeah and I think it’s one of those songs that can work quite well live you know as a a song to put somewhere in the middle of the set just to you know bring people back from the energy and stuff I think it’s a great song to bring people together and then you guys can you know crank it up again yeah we’ll probably do that you know like once we can get some shows going so yeah and you know before you go speak about the record you’re talking about shows you guys were supposed to be on the WASP tour you guys got dropped that came as a big surprise for you because you know Death Angel dropped because whatever reason it was and but wasp dropping you guys sound like a bit ridiculous yeah yeah I I think it was as well and uh I you know I I said everything that I knew which is uh they just said hey we don’t want you on the tour people can infer as to why or why not but um yeah they just kicked us off no reason no warning just said get out you know and the reason they gave was [ __ ] so yeah um yeah I mean it’s just like apparently everyone I’ve talked to is like yeah this uh sounds like Blacky Lawless man I’m like yep so got we got blacked but you know the the thing is how how how is there any safety net for you guys because it was a big tour you know it took a lot of you know it was a lot of shows and like with two months or less than two months they say okay you’re out yeah what is the guarantee for you I mean you guys just out in the mud we get nothing we just [ __ ] that’s it to be honest Blacky Lawless is kind of bucking himself too you know what I mean like it’s not like we were drawing no one to these shows I mean I think our the reaction showed that we have a pull so it’s just like I don’t know why this happened but now it’s done and there’s no turning it around yeah so and you know you know it’s a shame because you know I’m a big wasp fan you know obviously from the earlier days more than the later days and you know I’ll be honest Blacky Lawless gave me the best interviews I ever did and yeah and I I want to be clear I have nothing against Blackie wall Lawless nothing against wasp uh I’m I’m not trying to make this a personal thing at all I get it we’re in a business you got to make business decisions but um you know and it it it really did screw us yeah I had to inform my fans somehow and I’m I’m I I’m I was actually kind of bummed I told my wife that day I was like I feel bad she like why like because so many people are giving wasp [ __ ] yeah uh and I was like I I didn’t intend for that to happen but I have to tell my fans why we’re not going to be on tour you know and I that that’s it all I did was say the truth so um anyways I hope there’s no bad blood on that end but I feel like there might be so yeah yeah but when you guys get ready for to prob a t-shirts printed probably for for the tour you probably I don’t know but it’s we didn’t have T-shirts printed yet so that’s nice okay I I think I I lost a hundred bucks on a van deposit that I have to but that’s about it well it’s not too bad you know I think blanky could pay for that at least or their management at least could they could have the decency since they decided to drop you just you know fat [ __ ] chance it’s fine well let’s get back to to the record when need you guys start working on the the songs for never Neverland um I started working on them uh I’m always working on music so like even right now I have like almost a full record written musically uh and this album hasn’t even come out the same was true when strength was out and uh uh these songs were getting written in Fall of 2021 so some of these tracks like never Neverland that was written the core of it yeah three years ago and you’re just hearing it so that’s kind of the interesting and also frustrating part of being a professional musician is uh you don’t just get to go to band practice go that song rocks guys let’s put it out it’s like well people will hear this one in four years you know and it’s uh it can be really disheartening sometimes but I kind of keep that away by focusing on always being being creative and just being satisfied with my own work so yeah so so these songs you know I I know a lot of bands have you know like you most of the songs have two three four years some some bands probably longer um when you put the album out I mean when we listen to the record do those songs feel old to you because still going to have to play them anyway so they they feel brand new when we finish recording them so for for me right now they feel about a year old but the thing is when the album uh when the album comes out it renews life like I don’t know how to describe it but knowing that everyone else is hearing it for the first time allows me to go back and listen through it again which is what I usually do and I I kind of put myself in the position of a fan and I go okay I’m hearing this record for the first time what am I thinking and that’s fun for me me I like to put myself in the mind of other people and pretend you know and so that that’s kind of fun um but yeah then uh then you move on yeah and when you do that process of you know listening to the record again you know after a few months let’s say when you listen to the songs do you ever feel tempted or there’s something in your brain that says you know probably I should have changed this or I want to change that yeah for the most part yeah um like when I go back I don’t know because I listen to them a lot before they come out and before I record them I’d say this record a little bit more than the others um usually where I [ __ ] up is the second half of the verses I’m I’m always like why didn’t I put a Melody there or why didn’t I like God damn it but you know that it happens um but uh yeah yeah now most of the songs I’ve listened to so many times that I they’re already filled up you know they’re they have everything they need but yeah every once in a while it’s like ah [ __ ] that would have been great there but you can always do that life probably you know when you play you know at at something that you know won’t change obviously the song completely but you know sometimes playing life the songs life is a good experiment to see if they work or if they need something you know added up or taken out so you know yeah we usually uh if we play a song Live three times or four times and don’t get any real reaction from the crowd we don’t really play it again but most of our Originals The Crowd Goes Nuts for almost any of them so I I mean I don’t want to sound douchy saying that sorry but when we’re playing when we’re playing to our own crowd you know what I mean like our headlining shows we can play almost any song and the crowd is going [ __ ] Wild for it so that’s nice um but yeah opening for larger bands I I’m a bit more selective it’s like okay give me to the night it doesn’t really matter can you hear the rain you know we go down the big ones uh Jackie Nightfall Etc um and uh see how they work so yeah you know I remember seeing you guys for the first time when you guys played with was archenemy and Behemoth uh the tour European tour that you guys did and you know the thing that surprised me was in the way it didn’t seem that the sound fitted with the rest of the bill but at the same time it made sense how was it for you guys you know to be in a tour where bands are a bit more extreme you know louder heavier whatever and you guys have to warm up the crowd what what what goes in your mind when you know you’re facing a crowd that’s not yours um it it’s whatever we’re up there for 30 minutes like I I don’t I don’t really I I’d say I get I’m I’m more nervous than excited it’s honestly opening is kind of a bummer because yeah the front row is full of people who aren’t there for you yeah uh for the most part at least in our earlier days you know and you can do whatever you want and they cheer at the end of each song but they don’t know the words so they can’t get into it and um it’s 6:00 p.m. or it’s 7 p.m. so no one’s had any beers yet they’re they’re not that loud they’re kind of reserved they’re still digesting their dinner you know and so it’s uh yeah it it’s it’s definitely not as fun as headlining and you basically it’s it’s really hard as an opener to get the crowd in the palm of your hand to get them to be you know in into it whereas when we’re headlining it’s like I you can just tell the crowd to do whatever you want them to do and they do it um I mean specifically at some of our headlining shows it’s wild people are like Circle pitting to can you hear the rain you know or like moshing to Jackie stage diving to Jackie you know like I’m like what the [ __ ] is going on here like well it’s it’s great to have that experience anyway when you know because that means the crowd is having fun you know and if they’re having fun you’ll have fun as well hell yeah I mean totally and um I love it I think it’s great and you know one of the things about on other is you guys are making music that no one else is making you know we can hear a lot of new records and band sound you know s like another band whatever but onto others are on A League of Their Own um do you guys realize that and you know how do you feel you know you’re know you’re making something so unique at the same time uh grateful I suppose um uh grateful that we’re able to do it that’s about it like because when you start out you know that was the goal of this band when I started I was like okay well if I’m gonna do a band and we want to be a big band we have to be unique and that’s every artist’s question like how the hell do I stand out in the crowd how do you even begin to create something that’s unique and uh for me the answer went back to elementary school when they say you’re all special little snowflakes you know there’s something inside of you that makes you different from everybody else in the world and so I just said okay who am I if I be myself I can be unique um and that’s what this band is it’s just me trying to be myself as much as possible and I encourage my band mates to be themselves there’s no hey this band’s not cool and that band’s not cool and you can’t listen to this and we can’t like this and we can’t play that riff because it sounds like this band and all this other [ __ ] which funny enough a lot of bands work that way and I used to be in one of those bands and never never ever again we have no creative boundaries yeah you know that’s for me it’s great to hear that because when BS put themselves in a box it’s almost a death sentence you know at least creatively I think yeah you’re [ __ ] yeah because then it becomes such a huge deal if you ever step out of the box and it could be a career ending move if you put out 10 records that are all exactly the same and then go uh we’re going to do some weird stuff on this one people go what the [ __ ] you know and with us I prefer to just go what the [ __ ] every record yeah you know what we were speaking about wasp earlier and when they released Kil [ __ ] die you know that record was almost a career killer for them really I think you know it was when they decided to go industrial whatever thing it was I saw that I saw that tour I saw a show on that tour in Portugal and you know it wasn’t the same wasp that you know I grew up with it was you know whatever it’s choices you know sometimes you take a chance some research uh to that era I’m assuming this is in the early to mid 90s yeah yeah it’s when there was a boom of the Industrial Music and they decided [ __ ] 80s band was yeah you had mle Crew putting out their generation swine yeah had uh yeah that was a sad period for uh the80s guys the the the true uh the true colors came out you know what I mean you had this like corporate chameleons like Metallica going to the load thing and Dave mustain Mega Death going to uh I mean yeah risk risk uh cryptic ridings came out what 99 or something yeah yeah that was a good one but um yeah but there was a lot of really bad attempts at emulating like the dark the crow Matrix Style 9in Nails kind of aesthetic and it was just like cringe and I think a lot of people could see right through it you have Headbangers ball all of the sudden everyone’s wearing flannels yeah you know and you’re like what a mess what a [ __ ] mess feel terrible you know and it’s funny to to remember those days but you know it was really a setad period when you see the bands that you idolize trying to be something they’re not and you know on the other hand you then bands like maiden sticking to you know what their music was even though they went to a more Progressive whatever people call it uh side but they still delivered and those bands trying to get a new a newer Audience by doing something that you could smell a mile away that it was [ __ ] yeah it’s was just like dude you’re obviously trying to sell records or like hold weasel into this [ __ ] uh you know Market but like yeah I I don’t know uh you said something oh yeah Maiden love that band for that reason they never really compromised they never did anything wacko or stupid like that um and I kind of look up to them because this band is similar in a way where we’ve never had a scene you know if you come to one of our show there’s punks there’s Goths there’s metalheads there’s like thrash guys there’s total elitist and then there’s like totally normal people yeah just normal folks that don’t go to metal shows very often there’s you can pick them out because they’re standing there in our t-shirts you know at the front row at like Aces High Saloon in Salt Lake City which is like a total elius like metal bar you know and you’re like you look out of place but they’re fans and so it’s like we have this weird like mix of like Misfits All drawn together and that’s I’m just so happy because I’m just like yes like the music is touching people’s hearts it’s not just a scene thing of like hey you should like this band because they’re cool because this guy says they’re cool and that guy says they’re cool it’s like people are deciding for themselves that our music resonates with them and then coming out to the concert they’re not going because everyone else is going you know yeah you’re absolutely right you know and you know that kind of defines the band in a way when you have fans that you know they’re not cheap you know they’re not following you know someone’s Trends or whatever and they they have a hardcore record from us next year if that that was the case yeah and you know on the press release uh there was something that really caught my attention I took a much loser approach and gave members more input how how freeing that was for you to have that weight in a way off your shoulders for a bit and let the rest of the guys be themselves on these records um so yeah that press releas has kind of come back to haunt me a little bit but um yeah what I meant to say is I still I still wrote all the music aside from butterfly Brandon you know collaborated with me but in the studio yes I was like way less uh nitpicky and I wasn’t trying to be the junior producer I just I just said I just sang and I just played guitar um and did my jobs and I let Tom produce and Brandon did backup vocals which he does live this is the first record where I’m not doing my own backup vocals the solos I’m like go ahead just you know rock it out the drums same thing and we just kind of built everything around each other and it was nice because it was a really creative collaborative atmosphere yeah and and you I think it’s important for you know even though you do the bulk of the songwriting I think in a event it’s important for everyone to feel included you know and not just because this is a band this is a band and if I lost any member of the band if any one of them didn’t want to be a part of it anymore it would be devastating because they all are so good at what they do that while I may write the song what I do is I write the skeleton yeah I write the skeleton I they put the Flesh on the bones and um and so yeah with with this record it’s it was nice to just kind of take a step back and not try to just be such a uh Iron Fist on everything yeah and how was to work with with Tom especially because you know he he came from you know working like with the cult uh ghost uh and some other great bands uh what did he bring to the table on the producing desk with onto others oh Tom uh he uh he Tom knew exactly what we needed basically Tom made these songs sound Arena huge you know um he made them thick and Meaty for lack of a better word uh but yeah sonically he’s just like a genius and anytime something needed to be uh done he just got it he like you just didn’t have to tell him what to do it was amazing you know you you could trust him and he was so fast and on top of it and just like nailed the workout you you could just trust that he was gonna he wasn’t going to cut any corners and that’s why it was also so easy to let go and just let him be the producer you know um and yeah I’m not knocking any of my old producers they’re all [ __ ] amazing producers as well like every they yeah this is about Tom yeah if any of my old producers are watching I Love You Arthur guys [ __ ] killed it but yeah um yeah with Tom it was it was just like a it was like hey make that bigger he’s like okay you know and it just sounds bigger so it was it was cool yeah you know I I I I know some bands they use you know some records as a template for the sound they want let’s say if they work with you know whatever producer they want like Bob Rock let’s say and they want to sound like the Black album from Metallica or Dr Feelgood from mly crew they’ll bring the the record and say I want my drums or my guitars to sound like this yeah how is how is when you work a guy like Tom do you guys say that I want my guitar or I want the drums to sound like this because one of the things that I really enjoyed with Tom’s work with ghost was a drum sound for instance you know it’s something some of the best sound you know I think in rock or metal today it’s ghost drum sound for whatever reason I just love it but for you guys do you guys go with him and say like I want to sound like are guys have your sound and that’s it no yeah that I I go I just want it to sound good that’s it there’s only good or bad uh I would never go into a studio saying please make us sound like ghost please make us sound like Ramstein because what you’re going to sound like is a shittier version of what you wanted there’s no way you can emulate a sound without being that band you know what I mean so it’s just like no do whatever you need to do with whatever instrument in in context of our music you know um so and and Tom got that 100% yeah he’s a he’s a great producer and uh you know next year you guys are coming back to Europe big tour with green lung guys are coming back to Portugal February 28th um what can we expect from that tour how long you it’s going to be a cadline tour so you’re probably going to play same time uh as green lung um you guys have any ideas how that’s going to how you know TimeWise how that’s going to turn out uh so first off I just realized I was wearing my own sweater so sorry for that like feel like a total [ __ ] sitting here talking about myself wearing my own shirt you have to sell your band that’s how you do it [ __ ] F no second with the green long tour uh yeah it’s really weird how it was build um because it looks like it’s a co-headliner but we’re opening every night so uh we’re playing uh shorter than green lung which is totally fine I’m totally cool with but yeah I thought it was kind of odd that it looks like a co-headliner when it’s not really so and my booking agent will probably want to punch me in the face if he hears this but it’s a it’s the truth we’re direct support for all the dates um so um and we’re happy to be direct support you know Green lung’s a great band but yeah it’s kind of I think they they I guess when designing they thought we were worthy of same size logo so that’s you know kudos to them and thanks for them on that yeah we’ll still we still got a pretty long set and we we will deliver so yeah you’re still going to play a lot of new songs uh are you going to go for it uh yeah 100% yeah because we’ve already toured Europe enough playing mana and strength stuff and yeah we’ll we’ll probably I at that point I think we’ll gauge which songs are doing the best from the record and we’ll probably whip those out and then maybe one that we just feel like playing you know yeah and go from there and just one last question you know about the records there’s one song that I really enjoyed as I said I took quite plenty of notes on songs that but Flatline you know I just wrote fast and Furious kind of reminds me a bit of the old school Celtic Frost no [ __ ] you know what’s funny is I still haven’t listened to Celtic Frost I’ve listened to into Crips of rays that’s the only song I know and it’s funny because yeah when we put out Mana so many people like you sound like Tom G Warrior and Tom G Warrior even tweeted he retweeted uh our song when will God’s work be done like a few years ago and was like this is great and uh you know and I’m like um thank you but I was not ripping off Tom at least consciously so and this happens all the time this happens so often that I feel like people are going to think that I’m a liar uh you know because it’s just like it’s like oh this sounds like typo negative and I’m like dude I swear to God I mean I didn’t even know who Robert Smith of the Cure was when we started this band I didn’t know who uh David gayan from the best yeah you know I I didn’t know these things uh these were introduced to me after our record came out and people said you sound like these bands and I was like oh these are [ __ ] amazing I love these bands I had known of them of course but not enough to you know it’s like you know Metallica but you wouldn’t know James Hetfield if you weren’t a big fan right yeah so yeah um now it’s infected our music more but yeah it’s like I swear I’m not ripping people off you know never Neverland is a great record congratulations on it you know I’m looking forward to see you guys in Portugal next year I’m sure that with green line it’s going to be you know successful and uh you know all the best it’s a great record congratulations again I think you guys are on the right path uh to be a big band so uh just keep doing what you’re doing be honest because we can’t smell [ __ ] a mile away if you’re being if you’re being false we can smell it anyway at least I think we can as long as you can smell it I’ll stay on the straight now right Gabriel thank you much for your time all the best and see you in Lisbon next year all right till then thank you byebye [Music] [Music] FR [Music] [Music] never [Music] for [Music] L blog [Music] [Music] Children of the Night you will live through the centuries to come and I have left good night good night